Published on March 27, 2005 By drmiler In Politics
This is a reposted AP story

By ARTHUR H. ROTSTEIN
Associated Press Writer

March 25, 2005, 7:55 PM EST


PHOENIX -- All options should be considered to prevent rampages like the Minnesota school shooting that took 10 lives -- including making guns available to teachers, a top National Rifle Association leader said Friday.

"I'm not saying that that means every teacher should have a gun or not, but what I am saying is we need to look at all the options at what will truly protect the students," the NRA's first vice president, Sandra S. Froman, told The Associated Press.

Gun-control restrictions would not have prevented Jeff Weise, 16, from killing nine people and himself Monday at Red Lake High School near Bemidji, Minn., said Froman, an attorney expected next month to be elected president of the NRA, which claims 4 million members.

The presence of an unarmed guard at the school failed to stop the siege, she noted.

"No gun law, no policy that you could implement now or that was already implemented, I think, could possibly prevent someone so intent on destruction," she said. "I think everything's on the table as far as looking at what we need to do to make our schools safe for our students."

Froman said if it is the responsibility of teachers to protect students in a school, "then we as a society, we as a community have to provide a way for the teachers to do that."

Froman cited the 1997 school shooting incident in Pearl, Miss., where a teacher retrieved a gun from his car when a student opened fire, then held the student at bay until police arrived.

A law prohibiting guns in schools "is not going to stop someone who has evil in their heart and who has the capacity to commit those crimes from doing them," Froman said.

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on Mar 27, 2005
Every one has been screaming about more gun controls. But I have "yet" to hear anyone say this. Both of the last 2 major shootings were done with guns stolen from "COPS"! So now what? Do we take the guns away from police too?
on Mar 27, 2005
With all due respect, this is a silly idea.

I spent 20+ years of my life in and around education. In all that time, I might have met 10 that I would feel safe knowing they had a gun on them. I have had teachers that I didn't feel safe around UNARMED.

In addition, this would simply get guns into school FOR kids to use. Teachers are not going to tolerate an ankle-holster, or anything else, no matter how out-of-the-way. The teachers I had would simply throw it in a desk drawer for the deranged in their class to seize and use at will.

Then there's the sticky business of "suicide by teacher", or teachers abusing their right to carry the guns themselves. We can't keep teachers from screwing 14 year olds, why should they be any more responsible with guns?

Pilots, sure. There's no reason for them to be interacting with the passengers, they are locked in the cockpit, and they wear a uniform that could accomodate a firearm. Teachers? Pfft.
on Mar 27, 2005
Honestly, there are some teachers at my school I would not feel safe around if they were armed.
on Mar 27, 2005
Honestly, there are some teachers at my school I would not feel safe around if they were armed.


Agreed. Plus the chance that a 200 pound kid who is the star of the ______ team innocently approaching the 110 pound female teacher, then not so innocently reaching for her gun with the element of surprise...
on Mar 27, 2005
Exceedingly dumb idea
on Mar 27, 2005
Or even an agitated teacher trying to calm an unruly class down...
on Mar 28, 2005
" Exceedingly dumb idea"


Exceedingly un-insightful post, as usual. My apologies for criticism of the rhetorically challenged.
on Mar 28, 2005
What type of firearms are you considering?

There are new generations of non-lethal firearms that are very effective.

But has it really gotten to the point of arming teachers?

I don't think I am ready to agree to arm teachers.
on Mar 28, 2005
Sorry I didn't give it the emphasis it deserved.

EXCEEDINGLY DUMB, STUPID, MORONIC, AND FUCKINGLY DANGEROUS IDEA
on Mar 28, 2005
I shouls have posted this in the first place. The teachers need to go through the same/type of training program that airline pilots do.
on Mar 28, 2005
And that means it is impossible to overpower them? Going back to what Latour said, a frail, 67 year old grandmother isn't going to put up much of a fight against a determined student.
on Mar 28, 2005
And that means it is impossible to overpower them? Going back to what Latour said, a frail, 67 year old grandmother isn't going to put up much of a fight against a determined student.


You don't like my idea? fine. Then come up with a better one. And don't use more gun control since the last 2 shootings were done with guns stolen from cops!
on Mar 28, 2005
I was merely pointing out the flaws in your idea. I haven't a better one. If I did, I would be more than willing to share it with you. Sadly, the problem of school shootings is a very difficult one to solve.
on Mar 28, 2005
I was merely pointing out the flaws in your idea. I haven't a better one. If I did, I would be more than willing to share it with you. Sadly, the problem of school shootings is a very difficult one to solve.


And just an FYI.... that 67year old grandmother does NOT need to be the one that's armed. It should be the 6'2 dude down the hall teaching 2nd grade. I never made the claim that ALL teachers should be armed. Just allow those that think they can handle it to do it, after they've been trained.
on Mar 28, 2005
67 year old grandmothers don't often (ever?) go nuts at work and start killing people. Underpaid male civil servants have been known to.

Bad idea, imho, and I am adamantly anti-gun control, adamantly pro-ownership at a level beyond what we are allowed now. I have been to school, and worked as security in a college, and I'll tell you right now, arming teachers is a Bad Idea.

The worst moments I ever had in campus security had more to do with the teachers than the students, every single time.
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