Published on February 25, 2005 By drmiler In Politics
Reposted from the Wall Street Journal.



In Reagan's Footsteps
Europe decides that Bush may be right after all.

Friday, February 25, 2005 12:01 a.m. EST

Visits by U.S. Presidents to Europe tend to have a template-making quality: Wilson, the peace maker, in Paris, 1919; Truman, the victor, at Potsdam, 1945; Kennedy, the stalwart, in Berlin, 1963; Reagan, the visionary, in Berlin, 1987. If President Bush's trip this week has some kind of new theme, the word for it is probably conciliation. But our sense is that Mr. Bush is really following in Reagan's footsteps.

Admittedly, this thought is not original: Der Spiegel beat us to it. Still, it says something that the leftish German newsweekly, which two years ago devoted an entire cover story to advancing the "Blood for Oil" thesis about U.S. ambitions in the Middle East, has gingerly raised the question, "Could Bush Be Right?"

"The Germany Reagan was traveling in, much like today's Germany, was very skeptical of the American president and his foreign policy," Der Spiegel writes. "When Reagan stood before the Brandenburg Gate--and the Berlin Wall--and demanded that Gorbachev 'tear down this Wall,' he was lampooned the next day on the editorial pages. He is a dreamer, wrote commentators. . . . But history has shown that it wasn't Reagan who was the dreamer as he voiced his demand. Rather, it was German politicans who were lacking in imagination--a group who in 1987 couldn't imagine that there might be an alternative to a divided Germany."

It is doubtful that Der Spiegel would have made these observations had Mr. Bush's visit taken place just before Iraq's election rather than just after. And we suspect most of the magazine's editors would dearly have preferred to see a President Kerry.

But events have a way of imposing both discipline and clarity. For much of Europe, the idea that President Bush is the real and legitimate face of America came a few years late. But it has come, as has the realization that a hopeful era is dawning in the Middle East thanks to U.S. "unilateralism" and force of arms. In this sense, the purpose of Mr. Bush's trip isn't to present himself anew to Europe. It is to allow European leaders--France's Jacques Chirac, Germany's Gerhard Schroeder and Russia's Vladimir Putin--to present themselves anew to Mr. Bush.

Partly this reflects political facts: Contrary to expectation a year ago (and with the qualified exception of Spain), the leaders who supported the war in Iraq have all been returned to office, while Messrs. Chirac, Putin and Schroeder languish in polls.

Partly, too, it reflects the realities of power. Europe, collectively and in its several parts, requires a functioning relationship with the U.S. to secure its vital interests. The same cannot be said of America's requirements of Europe. President Bush was gracious when he acknowledged the willingness of Germany and France to contribute to the training of Iraqi policemen. But the one (yes, one) French officer now detailed to the task will probably not turn the tide of war.

Probably the most important component is that President Bush's vision of spreading democracy--of getting to the "tipping point" where tyrannies start to crumble--seems not only to be working but also winning some unexpected converts. Just ask the Lebanese who are suddenly restive under Syrian occupation. As a result, European politicians are in a poorer position to lecture this President about the true ways of the world.





This isn't to say that Mr. Bush can or should be indifferent to the attitudes of his European counterparts. They have agreed to put differences about Iraq behind them, which is good. The U.S., France and Germany also seem to be reasonably united in their concern about Russia's imperial pretensions and attenuated civil liberties. But potentially larger differences loom before them, above all over the nuclearization of Iran and the lifting of the post-Tiananmen arms embargo to China.
In each case, fundamental U.S. strategic interests--the security of Taiwan and Israel; the sovereignty of Iraq; naval supremacy in the Persian Gulf--stand at odds either with European commercial interests or ideological hobbyhorses (the French infatuation with "multipolarity"). If smoother diplomacy, both public and private, can avert another Iraq-style eruption without compromising U.S. interests, so much the better.

Then again, if Europe continues to demand a high price for its political favors, the Bush Administration would do well to shop for partners and ad hoc coalitions elsewhere. America's cultural links to Europe may be precious, but there is no law of nature or history that requires both sides of the Atlantic to act in concert. To the extent that Europeans continue to value the relationship, it is up to them to demonstrate it, chiefly by not acting as freelancers or spoilers in areas of vital U.S. concern.

Still, there are reasons to be sanguine about the future of trans-Atlantic relations. We are in no doubt that most European hearts thrilled to the sight of Iraqi voters going to the polls last month, suggesting that, whatever Europe and America's political or ideological differences, we remain alike in our innermost values and aspirations. Nor do we believe our world views are so divided that persuasion and compromise are impossible. Pundits may differ as to whether Mr. Bush and his European counterparts planted the seeds for a better relationship. What's sure is that they were planting on fertile soil.

Comments
on Feb 26, 2005
Doc, thanks for posting a source.

Respectfully, your subject title is not exactly accurate. That WSJ editorial does not cite European public opinion. However, December polling by AP shows Europeans give GWB an 'unfavorable' rating. (Link)



That December poll data confirms a Sept 2004 poll by GlobeScan & PIPA, which showed that citizens of 30 out of 35 countries (not just Europeans) favored Kerry over Bush (Link)

Likewise, the Pew Center polling since 2001 shows both (a) low approval for GWB in Europe, even before 9/11 and ( rising anti-Americanism worldwide on GWB's watch, much of it citinig the Iraq war as its cause. (Link)

Looking elsewhere, a Sept 2004 report in the Christian Science Monitor, showed "US standing with Arabs hits a low". IT cited a June 2004 Zogby poll. It seemed to cite another more recent poll, but I didn't see the specific source (Link)

Do Europeans 'hate' GWB? I don't know. But this data shows they don't really like him.
on Feb 26, 2005
So between the two we have a picture of the leadership of Europe and how the People of Europe (and other areas) responded to polls.

The opportunity to read accounts from all sides, gotta love blogging!!!
on Feb 26, 2005
I agree with ProgressiveUSA. The article wasn't exactly a resounding endorsement of Bush, as it was an opinionated WSJ article about how Bush may be received, given his unfavorable history.

Likewise, an article for the Guardian/UK exemplifies a typical stance, though somewhat more harshly. But, unlike the WSJ, it is a European source. .Link

Following are a few exerpts:

"President Bush has reached a dead end in his foreign policy, but he has failed to recognise his quandary. His belief that the polite reception he received in Europe is a vindication of his previous adventures is a vestige of fantasy."

"The European reception for Bush was not an embrace of his neoconservative world view, but an attempt to put it in the past. New Europe is trying to compartmentalise old Bush. To the extent that he promises to be different, the Europeans encourage him; to the extent that he is the same, they pretend it's not happening."

In other words, both articles are opinions, not facts. But, I think it's a pretty good guess that unlike the European politicians who are trying to "cobble together" some modicum of foreign policy with Bush, the European citizens, for the most part, hate him. Another link
Link

"But this president was entirely sealed off from Germans - other than Chancellor Gerhard Schröder and the German journalists at a news conference, and even a town-meeting-type encounter with Mainz residents was scrubbed out of worry the mood would be hostile. A meeting with a group of carefully screened "young leaders" was put in its place."

This sounds an awful lot like Bush's staged political rallies here in the US prior to the '04 election, doesn't it?

Opinions are opinions are opinions. But, unless opinions are backed by legitimate facts, they are nothing but jingoistic or lefty propaganda. I've tried to illustrate here that by going to sources other than just what the bushies want you to see, it's not all that rosy as they'd like you to believe. In fact, most Europeans have very little trust for this American administration. Do some research.
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on Feb 26, 2005

I agree with ProgressiveUSA. The article wasn't exactly a resounding endorsement of Bush, as it was an opinionated WSJ article about how Bush may be received, given his unfavorable history.

Likewise, an article for the Guardian/UK exemplifies a typical stance, though somewhat more harshly. But, unlike the WSJ, it is a European source. .Link

Following are a few exerpts:

"President Bush has reached a dead end in his foreign policy, but he has failed to recognise his quandary. His belief that the polite reception he received in Europe is a vindication of his previous adventures is a vestige of fantasy."

"The European reception for Bush was not an embrace of his neoconservative world view, but an attempt to put it in the past. New Europe is trying to compartmentalise old Bush. To the extent that he promises to be different, the Europeans encourage him; to the extent that he is the same, they pretend it's not happening."

In other words, both articles are opinions, not facts. But, I think it's a pretty good guess that unlike the European politicians who are trying to "cobble together" some modicum of foreign policy with Bush, the European citizens, for the most part, hate him. Another link
Link

"But this president was entirely sealed off from Germans - other than Chancellor Gerhard Schröder and the German journalists at a news conference, and even a town-meeting-type encounter with Mainz residents was scrubbed out of worry the mood would be hostile. A meeting with a group of carefully screened "young leaders" was put in its place."

This sounds an awful lot like Bush's staged political rallies here in the US prior to the '04 election, doesn't it?

Opinions are opinions are opinions. But, unless opinions are backed by legitimate facts, they are nothing but jingoistic or lefty propaganda. I've tried to illustrate here that by going to sources other than just what the bushies want you to see, it's not all that rosy as they'd like you to believe. In fact, most Europeans have very little trust for this American administration. Do some research.


You can agree with him all you want. But do NOT try to tell me that the "Wall Street Journal" is biased and not to be trusted. The Journal is the most read and trusted paper in America. If you don't know that then *you* are the one who needs to do research not me. And just an FYI...."If" you had bothered to really read the article you would known they where quoting "Der Spiegel " which is a European souce!
on Feb 26, 2005
I will try to TELL you anything I want. As you try to TELL me. Fact is, as I pointed out, it's all opinion, anyway. Get real, for once.
on Feb 26, 2005
I see I am going to have to incorperate jingoistic, along with Ad hominim, vitrolic and hyperbole into more of my posts, as these are the 4 words the left uses the most trying to fool us into thinking how smart they are, It's getting to be that a left leaning lemonhead loser just CANNOT post an article or reply without useing one of these 4 words.
on Feb 26, 2005
The polls in the US show an interesting trend. Just over half support Bush, which is the opposit of Europe and in Moslem countries. However, when Americans are asked if they support his individual policies from the war in Iraq to his plan for Social Security, most do not agree with the Bush solutions. That tells me that although just over half support Bush, they want him to change his policies on almost everything. Before the election a poll showed that 80% wanted some changes in a second Bush term and 60% wanted major changes. That is where Bush will fail to meet the wishes of the American People. He does not have the ability to look at the results of his policies and make changes to acomplish the mission. The Trade deficit and Federal deficit are just two of the clearest examples.
on Feb 26, 2005
Today everything is world wide. Trade, economics and terrorism. It is not possible for any country, including the U.S., to operate in the world of today isolated and hated. That is why what people in other countries think makes a difference! Bush has not promoted an atmosphere that results in the maximum cooperation in Europe, Canida or the Moslem world with America!
on Feb 26, 2005
I see I am going to have to incorperate jingoistic, along with Ad hominim, vitrolic and hyperbole into more of my posts, as these are the 4 words the left uses the most trying to fool us into thinking how smart they are, It's getting to be that a left leaning lemonhead loser just CANNOT post an article or reply without useing one of these 4 words.


Wrong again, modman. I used none of those words.

I commended doc for citing his source, I cited actual data & supported my statements with links to that data.

Try it sometime. If you do, I'll respond to you the way I responded to doc.
on Feb 26, 2005
That is why what people in other countries think makes a difference! Bush has not promoted an atmosphere that results in the maximum cooperation in Europe, Canida or the Moslem world with America!


You will never get "maximum cooperation" from the Europeans, and especially the muslim world. They have a way too different view of the "world" and in most cases they are wrong. The europeans want to deal with people like Saddam and Osama by "not offending" them, and hoping that they will just go away and be peaceful people. Remember, Europe is not always right and this "outrage" by liberals that Europe isn't happy with us is just hillarious.
on Feb 26, 2005



I will try to TELL you anything I want. As you try to TELL me. Fact is, as I pointed out, it's all opinion, anyway. Get real, for once.


GET LOST!
on Feb 26, 2005
But do NOT try to tell me that the "Wall Street Journal" is biased and not to be trusted. The Journal is the most read and trusted paper in America.


I guess it depend on how you define 'most trusted'. This 2002 Pew poll shows that Americans are more likely to trust their local daily paper. USA Today was roughly even with the WSJ. (Link)

And USA Today is also more widely read: 2.3 million vs 2.1 million for the WSJ. (Link)

As for 'biased,' of course their editorial page is biased. That's typical, especially for a paper that is not a general circulation paper like the WSJ. The facts & logic employed to make conclusions demonstrate anybody's bias -- this JoeUser.com blogsite & the WSJ editorial board included.
on Feb 26, 2005
The Journal is the most read and trusted paper in America.

After seeing this quote ,drmiler, I have this headline for you, "Impressionable person seeks advertising company for large paper to totally program him."


on Feb 27, 2005
I find it ironic how people say my country hates America, yet when you look at ProgressiveUSA's first post, you get a bit of a different picture.

There, we don't hate America, we just don't like Bush!

A little off topic, but whatever