A Patriot of a country will support that country through thick and thin regardless of who in charge politically, because for the Patriot whether he/she dislikes the people in the government or not that is NEVER important. The only thing important for a Patriot is that they will ALWAYS wish well and good things for the their country and NEVER EVER wish any harm upon the country even for such a petty thing as disliking the people in power in the Government.

There are two kinds of patriotism -- monarchical patriotism and republican patriotism. In the one case the government and the king may rightfully furnish you their notions of patriotism; in the other, neither the government nor the entire nation is privileged to dictate to any individual what the form of his patriotism shall be. The gospel of the monarchical patriotism is: "The King can do no wrong." We have adopted it with all its servility, with an unimportant change in the wording: "Our country, right or wrong!" We have thrown away the most valuable asset we had:-- the individual's right to oppose both flag and country when he (just he, by himself) believed them to be in the wrong. We have thrown it away; and with it all that was really respectable about that grotesque and laughable word, Patriotism.

--from the 1905-1908 notebook of samuel clemens (mark twain)

considering i concur entirely with clemen's assertion, i wonder which of us is more likely a libertarian.

Come on, Doc. If the administration fucks up in some way, is there a reason one should defend the fuckup? Col Gene (whom I'm certain you are referring to) does not claim Bush to be at the root of all problems - he simply points out what instance he believes they are fucking up on. Instead of attempting to slide all Gene's arguments in to the trashcan because they happen to highlight things he believes the admin. are fubar -ing, debate the issue with whatever facts you've got.

Problem here Def is you NEVER hear anything good come from him in regards to this administration, do you? Can you show me just 1 item?

i'd also note this is one of only a handful of articles you've posted that doesnt consist solely or almost entirely of something you've cut and pasted.

And this shows what exactly?

since you opened this can of worms... if i were to see the following and not know who posted it or have any other clues as to whom it described: b says you info is wrong NO MATTER where it comes from c Basically calls you stupid, full of BS, or ignorant d just ignores what you posted entirely. one of the first i'd think of would be....you. and i fully expect your response to this will be to tell me *WRONG* and follow it up by telling me--as you so consistently do--i'm full of *bs* etc. it's so easy to substantiate, i'll wait til you do that before providing you with quotes and dates.

You want to talk smack about me that's fine. Funny thing is though.....I'm not the only person seeing this from him. People from "both" sides of the fence have basically said the same thing! So where does that leave your opinion on this matter?

A Patriot of a country will support that country through thick and thin regardless of who in charge politically, because for the Patriot whether he/she dislikes the people in the government or not that is NEVER important. The only thing important for a Patriot is that they will ALWAYS wish well and good things for the their country and NEVER EVER wish any harm upon the country even for such a petty thing as disliking the people in power in the Government. Don't let them get to you, Doc, that will only make them happy and you don't want that. - GX

Hey Grim, GREAT to see you back! And "Thank you" for the vote of confidence!

got my vote too DOC...

It could be me. Drmiler's called me everything from a "great american" to the "antichrist."

Dunno.

I don't bash Bush on every thread, though. My ANWR thread and my Strategic Oil Reserve thread both follow the Bushies' points of view.

I hate that bastard, though, I really do. So I guess it could be me. hahahahahahahaa

It could be me. Drmiler's called me everything from a "great american" to the "antichrist." Dunno. I don't bash Bush on every thread, though. My ANWR thread and my Strategic Oil Reserve thread both follow the Bushies' points of view. I hate that bastard, though, I really do. So I guess it could be me. hahahahahahahaa

No it isn't you! The person in question has not had the guts to post yet! And I only called you an anti-christ when your name was "jesusstayschrunchy".

The person being mentioned never posts except in their own threads. They can't possibly defend themselves and their idiotic ideas in multiple places at the same time.

Either way, make like it's South Park and he's Eric Cartman. Ignore him. Stop reading. Stop replying. Just ignore and let the liberal lemmings follow. His audience is getting smaller and smaller, except for people (like myself at times) who get into arguments with him. Ignore it, or better yet, ignore the original thread, start a new one that argues the point without ever enterring his original thread. His subject lines alway tip his hand, so no need to help him points whore at all. Just ignore him and let the lemmings that never buy books anyway visit his thread. (Liberal lemmings, aka Hippies, visit libraries and read words for free hahahah )

When he sees he's no longer getting any responses, he might actually wake up and join conversations that others have started. He might even stop his self denial of claiming to be a Republican (as if).

Either way, let it go and let him die of loneliness.

hmm, lets see...narrowing down the usual suspects leaves the persom your're talking about is...............

.....oh, wait i'd better not tell...